ABOARD THE PAPAL FLIGHT FROM CUBA (CNS) --
Pope Francis defended his position on the economy, the
environment and other social issues as faithful repetitions of the basic
Catholic social doctrine.
Speaking to reporters
flying with him from Cuba to Washington Sept. 22, the pope was asked about
comments, mainly from the United States, claiming the pope is a communist and
about the Newsweek headline, "Is the pope Catholic?"
"I am certain I
have never said anything more than what is in the social doctrine of the
church," he responded. "I follow the church and in this, I do not
think I am wrong."
"Maybe I have given
an impression of being a little bit to the left," the pope admitted.
"But if they want me to recite the Creed, I can!"
Pope Francis said a
cardinal "who is a friend" was telling him about an older Catholic
lady, "a good woman, but a bit rigid," who had questions about the
description of the Antichrist in the Book of Revelation and if that was the
same thing as an "anti-pope."
"'Why are you
asking,' the cardinal said. 'Well, I am sure Pope Francis is the anti-pope.'
"'Why do you say
that?'
"'Well, because he
renounced the red shoes, which are so historic,'" the pope said the woman
responded.
People have all sorts of
reasons to think, "he's communist or he's not communist," the pope
said.
Pope Francis also
referred to the social teaching of the church when asked about the U.S.
economic embargo of Cuba. The social doctrine is critical of economic
embargoes, especially those that last for years, because of their impact on the
poor.
But he said he did not
intend to discuss the Cuban embargo in his speech to the U.S. Congress, but he
would talk more in general of the importance of bilateral agreements to promote
progress, peace and the common good.
"The problem of the
embargo is part of the negotiations. This is public. Both presidents have said
this. It is part of the journey toward good relations that is underway,"
he said.
"My desire is that
they end up with a good result, with an accord that satisfies both sides,"
he said.
The Sept. 19-22 visit to
Cuba was "a bit of a coincidence," the pope said. He had hoped to
enter the United States through Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, like so many people do.
But the idea changed when Cuban President Raul Castro and U.S. President Barack
Obama announced they had an agreement to begin normalizing their relations.
Pope Francis also was
asked why he did not meet Cuban dissidents and other opponents of the Cuban
opposition.
"It was very clear
I was not holding private audiences in the nunciature -- not even with other
heads of state," the pope said, apparently referring to Argentine
President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, who had traveled to Havana for the
papal visit.
Officials at the Vatican
Embassy in Havana did, however, make a telephone call to a representative of a
dissident group and invited several members of the group to be among those
greeted by the pope at Havana's cathedral, he said.
"I greeted many
people there, but no one identified himself as a dissident," Pope Francis
said.
Pope Francis was also
asked about his private meeting with former Cuban President Fidel Castro and
specifically if he thought Castro had "repented" of having treated
the Catholic Church so harshly.
"'Repentance' is
something intimate, having to do with the conscience," he said.
"In my meeting with
Fidel we spoke about the Jesuits he had known" as a student of a Jesuit
school, the pope said, and about how hard Jesuits used to make their students
work.
"And we spoke a lot
about the encyclical, 'Laudato Si',' because he is very interested in the theme
of ecology. It was not a very formal meeting, but spontaneous, with his family
there," the pope said.
"We did not talk
about the past," he said, except for "his experience with the
Jesuits."
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